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Complaint Review: Quantum Events, DS-Max, Innovage, Smart Circle

  • Submitted: Wednesday, June 11, 2008
  • Last Posting: Saturday, September 29, 2012
  • Reported By: — Dallas Texas
Quantum Events, DS-Max, Innovage, Smart Circle

3-A Gill StreetAll Locations MassachusettsU.S.A.

  • Phone: 781-935-6491
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  • Category: Cult

Quantum Events USA And All Its “locations” Quantum Events, Endeavor Marketing Internationa, Quantum Events, DS-Max, Innovage, Smart Circle Questionable Business Ethics and Shady Business Practices READ THE WHOLE LIST BELOW All Locations Massachusetts

*UPDATE Employee: Direct sales, not for everyone

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Here is a list of all the Quantum Companies in the US. As you can see they are all over the states, and in Canada now apparently. This took a lot of research to put together. Good thing they all advertise in the same places! I’m not saying don’t work for them, just be careful about trusting everything they tell you. Its a business that may work for some people but for most it won’t. I was an owner in the company and after a lot of shady stuff happened I couldn’t continue to be a part of a business that claims to be a people business, but treats its owners the way it does!Amanda Slate

Endeavor Marketing International
Denver, CO
Amanda Taylor

Alliant Promotionz
Glendale, AZ
Ami Pellegrini

ANJ Advertising
Las Vegas, NV
Andrew Berteaux

Mason Advertising Group
Lakewood, WA
Anthony Sheffield

Coastal Events
Mobile, AL 36695
Apryl Rolley

Aeon Marketing
Glenn Allen, VA
Audra Levey

Nicoco International
Sacramento, CA
Bill Graham

System Seven Marketing
Bill Middleton

Horizon Promotions
Austin, TX
Bisceglia Daniel

Legacy Concepts
Birmingham, AL
Brandon Keith

Precision Events
Livonia, MI
Brian Mannion

Champion Promotions, Inc
Houston, TX
Brian McCaffrey

North Star Events
Plymouth, MN
Brian Morales

The Daxter Group
Redmond, WA

Brittany Noblitt

Rising Tide, INC
Louisville, KY
Cam Lieu

Logistics Advertising
Sacramento, CA
Caroline Sanford

DeRome Marketing
Columbus, OH
Chad Powers 90 Ten Marketing
Charissa Kennedy

Rockstar Marketing Consultants
Redlands, CA
Charlie Thames

Sentinel Marketing Group
Baton Rouge, LA
Christina Steele-Kurtin

Community Events
Cromwell, CT
Cricket Medbery

Community Alliance
Pittsburgh, PA
Dave Apple

Apple Unlimited, Inc
Columbia, SC
Deanna Reney

Community Promotions
Fort Myers, FL
Denise Neils

Sun Wave Marketing
Reno, NV
Dennis Sullivan

Legacy Events
Marlton, NJ
Du Nguyen

Impact Promotions
Little Rock, AZ
Ellen Winter

Midwest Marketing Concepts
Addison, IL

Ellie Frey

Unity Concepts
Gainesville, FL
Eric Ellendorf

Empire Promotional Events
Secaucus, NJ
Eric Ferrari

Redline Events
Virginia Beach, VA
Erika Larios

New Direction Promotions
Anaheim, CA
Genelle Finkbeiner

Phenomonal Marketing Concepts
Saginaw, MI
Harmony Hunt

Redlands, CA
Heather Fyfe

Jambas Team Promotions
Glen Cove, NY
Hedija Ramic

HBH Global Promotionz
Glendale, AZ
Isaac jones

Dual Starr Marketing inc.
ana hiem, CA
Issac Deluna

Profound Promotions
San Antonio, TX
Jacqueline Calcano

Exclusive Promotions
Miami, FL
Janet Santiago

Family Promotions
Orlando, FL
Jason Jones

Liberty International Marketing
Arlington, TX
Jaye Agar

Dygo Enterprises
Jayson Turner

Ciroc International Marketing
Jeanine Laverty

JNL Marketing Group
Cleveland, OH
Jeff Blatt

Intrepid Promotions
San Antonio, TX
Jenni Moon

DC Marketing Group
Raleigh, NC
Jennifer Fields

Gold Coast Events
Davie, FL
Jeremy Wilson

Zephyr International Promotions
Arlington, TX

Jerry Chavez

Dynasty Marketing Group
Corrales, NM
Jesenia Rodriguez

Atlas enterprises
Grand Rapids, MI
Level One Enterprises
Redlands, CA
Jessica Smith

DayBreak International, Inc
Tuscon, AZ
Jim Krawczyk

Eventive Promotions
Houston, TX
Jock Ball

FLH Enterprises
Las Vegas, NV
John Carty

National Promotions, Inc
Deer Park, NY
Jonathan Quao

Shining Tree International Promotions
Barrie, ON
Julia Davis

Davis Direct Marketing
Brookfield, WI
Kara Clouse

Liberty Events Group
norristown, PA
Karen Bushnell

Apex Promotions
Buford, GA
Karuna Linkheart

KDL Marketing Group
Nashville, TN
Katharyn Norton

KBN Promotions
Woburn, MA
Katie Taylor

TaylorMade Promotionz
Glenview, IL
Keith Certo

Shining Tree International Promotions
Pickering, ON
Keyshay Mcchristion

Key Innovative Marketing
Cincinatti, OH
Kielia Bruse

Advance Marketing Concepts
Jacksonville, FL
Kim Paul

Kinetic Internatioanal
Denver, CO
Kirsten Berry

Anex Marketing
Lakewood, WA
Krissy Simpkins

Sapphire Skies Promotions
Oakville, ON
Kyle Ball

GEOPAT Enterprises
Baltimore, MD
Lance Genkins

Inner Link Marketing Concepts
Richardson, TX
Larissa Hawley

LH International Promotionz
San Diego, CA
Larry Zeiss

Child Safety Innovations
Elmsford, NY
Lawrence Case

Arrow International Marketing
Indianapolis, IN
Leslie Sheehan

NZ Promotions
Fresno, CA
Lidiette Cruz

Pandora Marketing House, Inc
Peoria, IL
Lindsey Barnes

5th Dimension Promotionz
Santa Ana, CA
Lonnie Kohlhorst

Mad Town Promotions Group
Madison, WI
Lu Ann LaMar

Emerald Concepts
Houston, TX
Mairead Murphy

Triple M Events
Charlotte, NC

Manny Navarette

3 D Promotions
Richardson, TX
Matt Grunske

TAG Promotions
Fort Myers, FL
Mayank Jha

Arya Promotional Group
Gainesville, FL
Melisa Mason

Legacy Events
Cohoes, NY
Melissa Watson

Child Safety International
Jacksonville, FL

Meredith Schisler

Five Point Marketing
Springfield, IL
Michelle Manson

Phase IV Marketing, Inc
Las Vegas, NV

Mike Beatty

Island Events
Deer Park, NY
Mike Putnam

Quantum Events USA
Woburn, MA
Nick Boyer

Fundamental Marketing Concepts
Maumee, OH
Nicole Briley

Clearwater, FL
Peter van den Berg –
Randy Boos

JAB Events
Little Rock, AR
Raul Torres

Centaur Promotions
North Miami, FL

Rebeca Noriega

Skyline Promotions
San Antonio, TX
Rebecca Krauthoefer

GDP Marketing
Cincinnati, OH
Ria Torres

Revival Marketing
Jacksonville, FL
Rob Paster

Grand Slam Events
Norrisville, PA
Robert Stiff

Genuine Marketing Solutions
Livonia, MI
Ryan McLemore

McLemore Advance Concepts
Austin, TX
Sam Jones

Executuve Specialty Promotions
Newark, DE

Samantha smith

Four Leaf Promotions
Gainesville, FL

Sean Garner

Paradigm Promotional Group
San Leandro, CA
Shakhir Warren-Bey

3 Kings Marketing Group
Colfax, NC

Shaun Lamb

ATX Marketing Group
Austin, TX
Shaun Williams

Sw Global Promotions
Oklahoma City, OK

Sheldon Simmons

A & S Marketing Group
Kingsport, TN
Shinnon Fakri

North Wind Promotions
Savannah, GA
Stephen Lewis

SDL Promotions
Lafayette, LA

Steve Hackbath

Eagle Wing Promotions
Houston, TX

Tasha Arrascue

East Coast Events
New Brunswick, NJ
Timothy Bezenah

Alpha International Promotions
Indianapolis, IN
Tomi Idowu-Silva

Silvalining Marketing Concepts
Marietta, GA
Valentina Curanovick

Twin City Events
Plymouth, MN
Vito Spatafora

Child Safety Enterprises
Deer Park, NY

Former Owner
Dallas, Texas

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#1 Ex-Employee

Info needed to be updated

AUTHOR: Okcexadmin – Okc (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Shaun Williams in Oklahoma City(SW Global Promotions) needs to be removed from this list. He is no longer the owner, and luckily the amazing man that he is finally got out of the hell hole we call Quantum. So whoever posted this needs to remove his name bc i dont want his name to ever be associated with this bullshit. He wants to be successful and and he has finally figured out it will not come through lying to others as he was lied to. If anyone would like know anything please feel free to let me know bc i pretty much know damn near everything there is to know about this hoax. For who posted this i would love to give you the new company name and owner unfortunately Quantum being the “Great Opportunity” has not incorporated the new owner “surprise surprise” it being 3 months ago and they are still running under SW Global. I would give the new owners name but i am not about slandering someone elses name on this website bc he is unwilling to accept/ hasn’t realized the truth behind everything.
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Info needed to be updated

AUTHOR: Okcexadmin – Okc (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Shaun Williams in Oklahoma City(SW Global Promotions) needs to be removed from this list. He is no longer the owner, and luckily the amazing man that he is finally got out of the h*** hole we call Quantum. So whoever posted this needs to remove his name bc i dont want his name to ever be associated with this bull****. He wants to be successful and and he has finally figured out it will not come through lying to others as he was lied to. If anyone would like know anything please feel free to let me know bc i pretty much know everything there is to know about this hoax. For who posted this i would love to give you the new company name and owner unfortunately Quantum being the “Great Opportunity” has not incorporated the new owner “surprise surprise” it being 3 months ago and they are still running under SW Global. I would give the new owners name but i am not about slandering someone elses name on this website bc he is unwilling to accept/ hasn’t realized the truth behind everything.
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AUTHOR: Joe – Austin (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Friday, June 27, 2008

I saw the company you referred to STILL POSTING these scam job offers on Craig’s List and they really should be checking out these companies and seeing whether or not they are scams because I located 23 scammers under the Administrative and Office jobs just today –in fact, you better be REAL careful when you CONSIDER applying for ANY job there. And you better know your job market too!Event Planning – Entry Level Marketing (Austin, TX)

Reply to: job-734415950@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-06-27, 8:44AM CDT

***ATX Marketing Group, Inc.***
Hello and thanks very much for your interest in a position with our company, ATX Marketing Group, Inc. As a company, we are looking to grow and expand as much as possible for the year of 2008. With that said, after reviewing several resumes we feel as if yours stands out and exemplifies what we are looking for in a team member with ATX Marketing Group, Inc.

As you are one of our top candidates in consideration for this position, we would like to extend an invitation for a preliminary interview with our firm. We would like to meet with you within the next few days to begin the formal interview process.

Please contact Betsy Cain at 512.491.5266 in order to schedule a date and time to meet with you and discuss our career opportunities further. Congratulations, we look forward to hearing from you soon!

Feel free to check out our website at http://www.atxmarketinginc.com.


Adrienne Mitchell

National Director of Human Resources

ATX Marketing Group, Inc.


This company works under many company names through out the US everyone receives a letter like the one above, I called and scheduled an interview and lucky me I use to work for the company that did the merchandising for DARE America when I asked the guy on the phone if he knew the person that started DARE merchandising he replied yes, he knew him well… the thing is that particular person passed away 2 years ago…ummmm
please read more here:

Location: Austin, TX
Compensation: DOE
Principals only. Recruiters, please don’t contact this job poster.
Please, no phone calls about this job!
Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

PostingID: 734415950

THAT’S NOT THE ONLY JOB OFFER SCAM on Craig’s List! It used to be you could tell because they were written by Nigerians who come to the US supposedly as students but who scam and their bad English gives them away. As they learn English, however, the scams get better.

THE SCAM ADS DO NOT HAVE AN EXACT LOCATION WHERE THESE WONDERFUL JOBS ARE. AND IN A PLACE LIKE AUSTIN WHERE UNDERPAID peon jobs and underemployment HAS BEEN THE NORM, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT administrative assistants who make $8 to $12an hour tops are going to be making $52,000 – $75,000 a year??????? GET REAL!

Here is an example of what I would consider a SCAM job ad from Craig’s List:

Exec Admin Assistants $52k to $75k annually

Reply to: **********@gmail.com
Date: 2008-06-27, 7:20AM CDT

This position will be performing administrative tasks, as well as identifying and recommending qualified candidates for our clients. An administrative, human resources or customer service background is preferred but is not mandatory.

Administrative tasks will include making appointments, answering incoming calls, scheduling conferences, making travel arrangements for the executives, managing and replying to e-mails in a timely fashion and other duties as requested by the executives.

Experience with Microsoft office suite a plus but not required.

We are currently offering the following compensation packages:

Full Time
$52,000 to $75,000 Annually
Medical and Dental Insurance, Educational Reimbursement, Paid Vacations, Paid Holidays, Rapid Advancement Opportunities.

Compensation: $52,000 to $75,000 Annually
OK to highlight this job opening for persons with disabilities
Principals only. Recruiters, please don’t contact this job poster.
Please, no phone calls about this job!
Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

It is from a g-mail account,


It does NOT list the exact location of the job!

The job description is VERY general and you have to wonder about all the benefits because NOBODY in Austin, especially in these hard economic times is going to be offering all of these benefits. Hell,, they don’t offer them when times are ” good” which they SELDOM are in Austin, at least not in these kinds of jobs.

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#4 Employee

WOW… That’s alot of offices for it to be a SCAM!!

AUTHOR: Amandataylor – Glendale (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 20, 2008

Whats funny to me is that you actually took the time to write out EVERY office in quantum… Except the ones that recently opened… probably 15-20 of them! Let me ask you, if this were a scam why are so many people getting promoted and opening offices? Why are more companies and clients working with them? I would think that the American Breast Cancer Foundation has a large enough budget to hire some lawyers and “investigate” on who they have representing them. How about Operation Smile? They’re probably just so hard up for money right now that they’ll take funds from any “scam”, although they are in something like 93 countries.Why has the list of owners grown from 2 offices to over 100 in 7 years? Are they all friends and family of Mike Putnam… just trying to keep the scam going??? This is so silly! Some people are obviously geting promoted and getting ahead with these companies. EVERYONE starts enrty level. So obviously the business model works. I wonder what the people that get promoted are doing differently then the rest of the people that are writing on this webite. Why are there no websites that promote the positives of companies? Only ones that slander and deface a companies character. If you had put in half the effort of writing these bloggs into working, your name probably would still be on that list too! For those of you looking into employment with one of these companies do yourself a favor… educate yourself on the industry (it’s nothing new), ask questions, and ask yourself why these companies are still growing and people are still getting promoted and are gaining more clients and expanding divisions if it were a scam.

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#5 Ex-Employee

Amanda you are Dumb

AUTHOR: The Truth – Medford (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Friday, August 22, 2008

I can’t stand people who come on here and defend quantum, they all say the same thing, Just cause there is 70 or whatever offices doesnt mean it is a success. I bet 90% of those offices lose money and close down and stupid Mike Putnam just promotes new people to the same territories what an idiot. You obviously are an owner because that little speech you posted is exactly pretty much word for word what all owners say when they describe the “Growth” of the business. Owners make no money and when they do they just lose it when they hit a dry spell it is so obvious. Also just cause you stand outside and beg people to buy some stupid product doesn’t mean you are any good at sales just means you are pathetic. Of course there are no websites listing the good qualities of this company because there are no good qualities. Their is no other business out there that has as much negative feedback as quantum/cydcor/innovage that should just be the proof in itself. Once again Amanda you are Dumb.
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#6 Ex-Employee

Amanda you are so dumb?……….

AUTHOR: Shabak2007 – Anson (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Monday, September 15, 2008

I am writing in responce to the derogatory remarks made against Mike Putnam,Keith Certo and all the business assoc to them.First and foremost the comment that “the co. is not for everyone” is a true statement.
I am a previous employee.I worked with and for Shakiar Warren Bey @ 3 Kings Mkt. in Colfax,NC.
The company is just what you want it to be and it takes great effort to succeed.You are expected to WIN early in the game however that is a positive note.
I came on with the company in 2007 and was with the D.A.R.E program and “yes”..i was good at what i did.It is a challenging job but aren’t all aspects of life? You can not continue to throw negative remarks toward the company and through the world because again…..THE COMPANY LIKE ALL OTHER ASPECTS IN LIFE IS NOT FOR EVERYONE!!!! Take a deep breath,seek forgiveness if needed because you are only destroying your name not theirs! what employer will take a chance at you when you become this bitter because YOU let YOURSELF down?? I learned early in life to look in the mirror – you are looking back at yourself with peace in your heart or missery and i think misery wins here.GIVE IT UP AND MOVE ON.

I have taken alot of my training with me not to another job only but i learned to apply what Shakir taught me and apply it to my personal life as well.It’s what you make of it baby!

How many companys 2 wks into the company would take you to an all expense paid owners meeting in Florida? Fun,Business and training tools…for some well,they fell in the pool ! LOL!

I would be honored to be a part of this company again however we do not have an office in MAINE.I can make it happen.

Once again to those who read the negative complaint from this person….I saw many people like her “go out the door quickly”


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#7 Ex-Employee

amy wenning/dan paneamanda/katie malone

AUTHOR: Buffalo727 – West Seneca (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Monday, September 22, 2008

Does anyone happen to know where Amy Wenning and Dan paneamanda disappeared to? They opened their office together in Washington D.C after scamming plenty of people in Buffalo, NY and there is a group of us still looking for past wages, w2’s, etc. Also, is Katie Malone still a regional out of Boston, MA?
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#8 Employee

Positive thoughts produce positive results.

AUTHOR: Rebekah – Leesville (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 28, 2008

I am building my own business. Our company is a concept I created by analyzing all my of experiences and taking what the business has taught me about the world. Our business teaches you to first love and take care of yourself while absolutely pushing you to strive to reach some pretty high goals, high standards so to say…but you wouldn’t want to build an empire of mediocre standards and just being comfortable…right? One of the best pieces of advice I ever recieved from a Premier owner was never be comfortable. YOU are capable of achieving so much more…YOU hold the keys to your destiny. Why not invest your time into yourself to reach your inner potential that you KNOW is there. Create yourself into leadership and begin to take a role that is not only crucial to your own success…but now the success of others?? To learn to build those people into ownership over there entire lives while teaching and motivating and creating positively??To go from a life of constant depression, low self-esteem, taking action with no backbone…to finally learning to ENFORCE that Step 8…well, darling I tell you there’s nothing better.

Thats what this business, DS MAX/Quantum/Apple Unlimited, has provided to me…and to be honest, this is a pretty fucking good Step 7. Juice by that?

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#9 Ex-Employee

I feel sorry for those of you who are brainwashed

AUTHOR: Scott Johns – Louisville (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 06, 2008

Apparently the younger you are, the easier you are drawn into the scam. The way you recite those that “step 7” and “step 8” crap . . . that was laughable. There is nothing MAGICAL about “being on time,” “working 8 hours,” “being prepared,” “taking control,” you make it sound like you have been given some great wisdom. You have . . . and everybody who has a brain has that same wisdom. It’s no secret to be successful you need to have a good attitude, be on time, be prepared, work 8 hours, take control, blah blah blah . . . . for you to think you have been given some ancient wisdom shows your inexperience and just how much you HAVE been brainwashed. These principles are as basic as they get, not “insider information” sweetheart.I wish you luck and hope you get deprogrammed before long!

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#10 Consumer Comment

Can someone please post some meat and potatoes in this ripoff report?

AUTHOR: Someguyfromlasvegas – Las Vegas (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Friday, November 07, 2008

It just says they are bad. It doesn’t say how they are bad, or what they do? Do they ripoff customers? Do they ripoff clients? Do they ripoff employees? If so, then how exactly? Please don’t say they promised high income potential and didn’t come through; that is true of all sales type positions. I want to know if their products are bogus, or if they stiff people out of money at a corporate level (If one office had a few bad apples that’s not an indictment of the whole company, that’s an indictment of one manager). Specifically, why should I or why should I not take a position with Pacific Advertising Group in Las Vegas?Waiving promises of high income potential and management/independence is par for the course in any industry like this. Either you make it or you don’t–And as far as I can tell the ones that made it are sticking up for the company and the ones that didn’t are making claims of “bad ethics” without making any sort of real claims.

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#11 Consumer Suggestion

Its true…

AUTHOR: Iusetobeaconman – Ownerville (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 15, 2008

if you go on an interview or “day of o”, as soon as you get in the car with someone, say “juice” to them……when you get to the event say “time to use my SEE or SEX factors”……see what kind of reaction you get.
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#12 Employee

Meat & Potatoes

AUTHOR: Deejay1500 – Savannah (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Monday, November 24, 2008

Okay someone asked for meat and potatoes. Its not alot but hey here we go.I was recently an employee of Silvalining Marketing Concepts Inc. in Savannah, GA. I have 2 things that have raised my attention pointing to this company being a scam.

1. It is ILLEGAL in the state of Georgia to operate a business without a business liscense. I have spoken with Tomi Silva herself and she, being the “owner” of this INCORPORATED business, cannot produce one. When I spoke to an owner from Atlanta, Jason Jones (Jones Effect Inc.) and asked him the details of is incorporation, ie. was he a sole owner, a partner, or if he filed as a LLC (limited liability corporation) he looked at me like im stupid. I also Asked if the incorporation meant he could branch out and do some marketing styles other than sitting outside of a local walmart, he could not answer. Personally if I was going to own my own business I would like to know the details and options of my ownership, to choose what is best for me.

2. I decided to start parking my vehicle infront of the loading bay for the warehouse. When we ran out of specific merchandise we would magically get more. But at the time that we got more we lost some of the “donated” stuff. Specifically those items we were short on. Now how could a truck deliver palates of stuff with my, and a co-workers vehicle blocking the door. And the way the warehouse was set up there was no way to get stuff in the normal sized door next to the loading bay.

I dont know about you, but I feel that taking DONATIONS that people purchase from you and recirculating them out to resell to the SAME people is illegal, unfair, unethical, and downright wrong.

I was telling people that these items went to less fortunate children. When infact it was sitting in the back of a warehouse never to be touched. We have also been kicked out of an “event” by local police saying that if we had no proof of a business liscense then we would have to leave. We were ill prepared for situations like that and when we asked about a business liscense we were met with hostility and enitrely too much red tape to get a simple document that legally should be posted in plain view on the wall.

It is one thing to promise amazing salary (mine was 80,000k a year as a manager) and lie about it, its another thing to work someone 60+ hours a week for pennies and make them pay their own gas and ruin their vehicle, Its another thing for Apple Unlimited Inc to bring people from Savannah, GA to Columbia, SC, lie about their living arrangements and put 30 people in a handful of rooms, pay them next to nothing to where they must spend 4 weeks or more STUCK away from home and their family because they cant make any money, and its another thing to take donation items that people buy off of your table, and recirculate them into the inventory you are selling back, thus ripping off the community, being dishonest about the motives of your business, and ripping off not only the customer, the employee, but the charitable organization you are representing.

And all this time, nobody could take a few hours and fill out the paperwork and file for a business liscense for the state. Im sorry Silvalining Marketing/Apple Unlimited/Quantum/Innovage. But I am NOT going to jail for you because I am taking peoples money dishonestly and illegally!

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#13 Consumer Comment

FLH Enterprises = JMO Promotional Marketing Inc. – Las Vegas, NV

AUTHOR: Cb1496 – Las Vegas (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Friday, December 05, 2008

I just went in for an interview with JMO Promotional Marketing Inc. As soon as I got into the office, it didn’t appear to be a professional-looking office. The wording on the front door of the office said FLH Enterprises, although the company I had an interview with was JMO Promotional Marketing, Inc. We were to dress in “business-professional” attire, yet, the employees who worked there were dressed very casually. They answered the phone very unprofessionally by saying, “Marketing.” That was it – they didn’t mention their name or the company, just that one word. I thought that was very unprofessional for the receptionists to not acknowledge the company they represent.I had thought something was odd with this company because there is no further information on the company when you do an online search. All you find are links to job postings. I recalled seeing a clear plaque with the word “Quantum” on one of the workers’ desks. I gave that a try and found numerous reports on ripoffreport.com regarding scams.

Just a heads up that they are now doing business as JMO Promotional Marketing Inc. in Las Vegas, NV.

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#14 Employee

Charlotte, NC beware of Queen City Events, Blackout Marketing, FW1 and Apple Unlimited.

AUTHOR: Anonymous – Charlotte (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Friday, December 19, 2008

Everything written by others about the “Quantum” company is correct. They just came to the Charlotte, NC area and constantly interviewing people claiming its for event management, account management, etc. Their ads are all over Career Builder and people are constantly in and out of the office for interviews.I, myself, fell for this company as well. I should have know the day of my interview with Blackout Marketing that something was odd that mine with Queen City Events a couple hours later had the same exact address. They promise everyone the world and everyone at the company is great and super nice. But, sorry, niceness doesn’t pay your bills. They will con you into believing your 1st week is going to be “paid training” and you will make about 500 or so a week. WRONG! I busted my butt for 2 weeks doing 60 hour work weeks believing I was doing great, etc to only get paid less that minimum wage. Conveniently, they don’t have a time clock so you can clock in and out..so they don’t have to pay you minimum wage…so basically you are working for “charity” like the events they have you working. They def make you feel like you are awesome and brainwash you into thinking you are going to make so much money and be a manager and owner of the company one day. Maybe a select very few do…after they work many months for so little.

All I want to do is warn others of these companies. I have met so many great people that have came on board with them that have families to take care of, etc. For the pay here, you may as well work min wage somewhere…least you know what you’d be getting into and have set pay.

Also, know that if you stil decide to meet with these people…your pay is based on how many “pieces” aka product you sell at events. And know that you will be working outside 100% outside of Walmarts, Lowe’s and various places begging people to help you and making it look like its all for charity. When only thing that is for charity is the toy drive donated items. The actual chairities only get 5% of the process which isn’t a whole lot when you see the amount of prodict consumers are conned into buying.

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#15 Employee

You all seem very sad and silly!

AUTHOR: Michelle – Orange Beach (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Friday, December 26, 2008

This company is probably the best thing that has happened to me this year. I can understand how people would get upset because they didn’t succeed in this business, but one thing you need to understand is that it’s not for everyone. I have seen my office help so many people it’s not even funny. You talk about the owners of whatever office just wanting their money, but what they really want is to succeed, and see everyone else around them do the same. For instance, There is a guy I work with, He’s not very good at what we do, and he doesn’t pull in many sales, but he tries.A few weeks back back he wanted to quit, but our owners wouldn’t let him, they offered him an hourly rate for answereing phones and helping out in the warehouse (which they don’t need help with, and it’s basically taking money out of their pockets!) just so he wouldn’t be jobless. Now I don’t understand how that can be seen as a scam, but I suppose everybody has a different point of view. I sincerly enjoy my job and what I do. It is a wonderful learning and growing experience, and either it helps you or you allow it to get the best of you.

Yes, I drive around and talk to hundreds of people every day, but I like people. And yes, I sell things out of the back of my car for absurdley low prices. But no, I don’t see anything wrong with this company or what it does. People thouroghly enjoy our products, you can’t find a better price for any of it, and it’s good quality stuff. We don’t harrass people like other marketing/sales companies ask of you, We are trained and taught to spend time with the people who want you there and to apologize to the people who don’t.

I don’t think I have ever seen a sales firm that spends as much time with their employees, and actually care about them. It sounds to me like alot of people are upset because they didn’t make it in this business, but once again it’s not for everyone and it’s very challenging. I’m sorry to those of you who are upset, but don’t worry about it. Go find a job that you enjoy like I did, and forget about this one. Also, I AM NOT AN OWNER….YET!

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#16 Ex-Employee

Give it time

AUTHOR: The Truth – Medford (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 31, 2008

Michelle, you sound like every new person that gets brainwashed. Its not your fault usually the owners and everyone in the office are very nice people and try an help you out as much as possible. I guarentee you will soon see this job no matter what position your in is not worth it. The fact is you cant trust anyone in this business even if you think you know your manager real well and they really might want the best for you but they are getting mislead just as much as you are by their promoting manager it just never ends. I stayed in the business for a good amount of time just because I was living at home had no bills and liked to hang out with the people in the office it was fun. Just do the math managers do not make good money, take your offices best week peice wise crunch all the numbers and the expenses (trust me their are a lot of expenses that a manager has to pay). Honestly I wouldn’t even want to be a VP in this company I’ve seen what they have to do and how they have to live and it is absolutley terrible. You’ll probably go to a leaders meeting soon and fall for all the BS that they feed you there but good luck.
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#17 Ex-Employee

I was a victim too

AUTHOR: Curyasz – Peoira Heights (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 15, 2009

I was with the Pandora Marketing Group for 9 months. I don’t believe it is a complete hoax, but I do agree that it is very shady and they screw people over if you don’t watch yourself. I have seen the system work for people, but mostly people just get used. The tax part of it is completely unacceptable. The owners are not trained well enough to deal with things as important as the IRS. All in all, stay away from any of these companies.
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AUTHOR: Gary – Coral Springs (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Monday, March 09, 2009

This type of company almost ruined my life, granted it is somewhat my fault for not doing the research but these guys are just full of lies.I was living in update NY the most of my life and decided I needed a change and have been to South Florida many times and figured that would be a decent place to go.

While on vacation, I decided to do some job hunting and look for a place, and possibly make the big move. I was looking online and noticed a marketing job that works with fortune 500 companies and they were looking to fill management positions. I checked the salary out and it said $40,000 a year base pay, and minimum $20,000 commission. Considering I was only making 40k a year in update NY, I should have no problem living on a minimum of 60k a year in S FLA. I went in for the interview and noticed about 7 other people filling out applications and people coming in and out constantly. I finally went in to speak with the owner of the business, and just like the other interviews I went on, I tired to learn as much as I could about the business as I could, what exactly they were marketing, what the job would entail, but all the owner did was tell me how much money I was going to make and that we dealt with Fortune 500 companies and with my background, I should have no problem moving up through the company “if” they call me for a second interview.

After about 15 interviews in Florida, I went back home to NY and actually received a few call backs from jobs. I had 3 job offers and an offer for a second interview with this company. Because of the timing I had to withdraw my name from considering the other 3, but still had the second interview with Innovage.

I was very confident that I would get the job, so I packed my car up and drove south.

One day after arriving in Florida, I go in for my “second interview”, was I in for a massive shock. I was sitting in the waiting room listening to people chanting, wondering what the hell they were doing. Me in the back of my mind just wants my 60k a year and work my tail off for it. After the chanting stopped, gobs and gobs of people come out and the owner of the company says “you’ll be going out with these two guys today”, I was in shock, I had no idea what was going on. So me and these two guys, one was a very young, I would say 18-19 year old thug, and one was a 26-27 year old man, very clean cut, and very kind. As soon as we got into the car, I was asking question, where we were going, what is this job all about, and asked them if they liked their job. I didn’t get an answer on where we were going, just a “On location”, and what the job was about “you’ll be observing us while we work, all you have to do is stand there”. The younger man stated that he absolutely loves his job and he can’t wait to be rich. You should have seen the look on my face when we pulled up to a BJ’s Wholesale Club, while walking in I still had no idea what was going on, we stop in front of a home improvement booth and next thing I know, these two guys are stopping EVERYBODY in their tracks trying to get them free estimates for windows, doors, kitchens, who knows. At that second, I should have just walked away (but I couldn’t, my car was back at the office).

After the long day of just standing in the same spot watching these two guys make absolute fools of themselves, I got back into the car with them and we were on our way back to the office, the more questions I asked, the more I was told I should talk to the owner. I get to the office, told the owner that I really don’t think this job is for me, I told him the pay was right around what I was looking for, but I really didn’t feel like bothering people when they are walking to their cars after grocery shopping. He then proceeded to tell me that he would put me into an accelerated program and that I would be managing in 2-4 weeks and I wouldn’t have to worry about that. Don’t ask me why, but I stuck around, totally my fault and I honestly don’t blame anybody but myself. Was it deceiving? Yes, but it really was my choice. After the first week, I noticed that the pay wasn’t as it was told to me. I was given a check for $400, I was extremely confused at this point, I asked the boss why the base pay was so low, he told me that my normal pay scale will start in effect after 2 weeks. So again I stuck around, believing everything I heard, I mean, why would they lie to me, they were a legit company right? 2 weeks go by, I get my next check, it is for 260 dollars, I asked what this check was, that is when I was told that my salary was commission based and that I was not going to be paid a base salary. At this point I was fuming, not only are they requiring me to work 6 days a week, sometimes 12-13 hours a day, fill my own tank with gas going an hour away, paying my own tolls, but they are not paying me a base salary? Even after all this, I still don’t know what made me stay.

After a week, I decided that I was not going to do this, I was done, I will live off my savings and find another job. I was spending more money traveling around for this job than I was making. I went to the boss and told him I decided to resign my position. He decided to come up with a package for me, travel to Minneapolis for a week and train some people up there, he would pay for the travel, the hotel, $100 bucks a day, plus our commissions. I decided that what the heck, I’ll do it. 2 days before we were to go, he asks me if I could drive my car up there with 3 other guys. I didn’t like this idea even though I was planning on purchasing a new car when I got back. He said he would throw me some extra money (which he did) and we were on our way.

Long story short, I was up in Minnesota for one full month, and got paid roughly $700 dollars cash. I only got paid $500 dollars till the last day, on the last day they gave me and one of the people who went up with me $200 dollars apiece, I told the guy, I’m using this $200 dollars to get home, if you want to come, lets go. We left, I went to the office he told me he was sorry and the band tuned up again, and next thing I know, I’m back to work in BJs Wholesale the next day. After about 3 days of it, I finally had enough and I walked out of the store and never looked back, never went back to the office, never heard from the owner, nothing.

If it wasn’t for the money I saved before I made my move, I would have been in MAJOR MAJOR trouble working for this company.

I honestly do not believe this job is for anybody, you may see a big jump in cash in your hand at first, but if you really do the math, you’re getting paid less than minimum wage, you are ruining your vehicle, and you do not have a life.

You work 6 days a week, you get to the office at 8, you drive to your “location/territory”, work their till 6 or 7, then go back to the office at 8. That is a 12 hour day. Do that 6 days a week, you’re looking at 72 hours a week. A good “sales” person makes 5-600 dollars a week, on the high end you’re looking at $8.33 an hour, no overtime, no benefits, and you are filling your tank 3 times week, and eating 3 meals out everyday

Minimum wage will be $7.25 an hour this coming year. If you worked that many hours a week for McDonalds, you would make almost 700 dollars a week with overtime pay, not to mention saving your car from the unreverseable damage you will do to it by working for this company.

I know I said a lot, but I really didn’t get into much, there is just a lot of brainwashing, a ton of lying, and a ton of misleading. Do not get stuck into this, they can promise you whatever they want, but they are lying to you, you are NOT that one person who is going to make it, you are not going to get rich from this company. There is only ONE person who is going to get rich from this company and that is from the guy who started it, his name slips my mind, but he is the only one. This job WILL effect your life in a negative way, stay away.

BTW, I did find a job about 4 months after I left this one, and have been here for over a year now. I really don’t like what happened to me with this job, but I really did pick up a few things from it, and I also learned that you have to do a TON of research on the company that is interviewing you, and research on the company before you accept a position. GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING as well.

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#19 Ex-Employee

A real job, just not a good one

AUTHOR: Amanda L – San Marcos (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Friday, March 13, 2009

These companies are not illegal or anything like that. I used to work at one of companies located in Austin. Its not that the job is a scam, its that its crummy work that does not pay. You can go to work for 10 hours and if you have a bad location or just a bad day, you will make no money because its 100% commission based. And like I said its an 8 am until 6 pm job. You also only get about a 20 minute lunch. They also expect you to be at every social event, on top of your ten hour day, and on top of that they tell you to work Saturdays because it will help you get ahead. When people say this job is not for everyone they mean its not for those who require a decent amount of money. Also, my leader would literally call me everyday for no reason other than to see what I was doing outside of work. It was borderline harassment. I finally called one day and I said I could not work there anymore. If you enjoy working alone and having a crummy sales job, this would be the place to work. If you like knowing your going to make money it is not! Oh and not to mention, if the weather is bad, too bad make sure you have the right clothes on so you don’t freeze or soak.
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#20 Ex-Employee

A Big Price to Pay for Education

AUTHOR: Bob T – Clinton (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 14, 2009

As an ex-owner (DS-Max speak, of course) of a Clearance Division (historical, of course) office, I can speak with complete credibility. I spent nearly 4 years in the field. I was told, eventually learned, and then spewed the lies that keep this company afloat. I cannot match or exceed the misery that can be found by reading any of the hundreds of tales of woe posted on this site, so I won’t try. The churn them and burn them mentality of the parent company is built into their business model–a model that has alowed them to consistently make money, dispite the status of the national economy. Will I ever attempt to defend their tactics? No. Will I ever forgive them for the damage to my soul? Never.That being said, if dispite all of the posted warnings you want to give this MLM a try, then go ahead, it is a free country.

For me, there was no six figure income, no palace in Malibu, or Porsche in the driveway. For my 4 years of 70+ hour weeks I received a life long lesson in dealing with adversity and strife. Say what you want about their atrocious ethics, but you will take something away that will last your entire life.

I am referring to the 5 and 8. Anyone who has been in the business know what I am describing. I can honestly say that I use the 5 and 8 everyday. You can’t help it, it is a permanent part of your bones. I did not have them before DS-Max. I use them in corporate America to this day. They are the keys to success and advancement. They seem like common sense, but a strict adherence to them will give you a distinct advantage over everyone else.

Protect your attititude, be on time, be prepared, work a full day, it all comes so smoothly for me now, when it didn’t before. I did not obtain the millionaire bank account that the company touts, instead I received a million dollar education.

There is always something good to take away from any experience. Be aware though, the company will suck out your soul if you let them.

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#21 Ex-Employee

Honestly Michelle?

AUTHOR: Ivelisse Medina – Trenton (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 28, 2009

Michelle have u seen how many complaints Quantum Marketing has on this web site. As a college graduate i want something more for myself that standing outside begging people to buy stuff from me in front of a wal-mart or 7-11. Rain or shine, hot or cold these people expect u to stand out there begging and telling lie after lie. What good is a job with no benefits and no security…think about what u got urself into and get out of it before it’s too late and u find urself without enough money to even put gas in ur tank.
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#22 Employee

Its not all bad

AUTHOR: Nhendrick – Austin (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Saturday, May 30, 2009

I currently work in austin doing windshield repairs, and so far i do like my job maybe there are some bad apples in the bunch but there is a lot of room for growth from within plus I don’t harass people for donations I simply help people out and save them money yes I am getting paid for it but not by the customer just by insurance companies, I can’t sell people products but I can help them out.
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#23 Ex-Employee

KDL Marketing Group Nashville, TN

AUTHOR: Erin B – Clarksville (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 15, 2009

I worked for KDL Marketing Group in Nashville, TN for about a month. It didn’t take me very long to realize the company had some issues. I didn’t realize the pay was completely commission until I was already working for them. They never said it explicitly. From how they talked to me about it, it sounded like it was partially commission based. I made practically no money while I was working there. I got very far into debt. I worked 60-70 hours a week.I am a hard worker, but I won’t lie or swindle people, so I couldnt stay there. We were basically spewing out our scam so quickly that the “customers” wouldn’t notice that we said we were paid fundraisers and didn’t work for DARE. That seemed very fishy to me. Supposedly 10% of the profits went to whatever organization we were representing. I’m not even sure that actually happened.

When it came time to file taxes this year, I didn’t receive a W-2. I tried to look up KDL in the Yellow Pages, but when I contacted the number, it was disconnected. They seem to have disappeared. I looked everywhere and couldn’t find a valid number for them. The only thing I did find was they still had a job posting in Nashville on Careerbuilder.com. I did finally receive my W-2 IN JUNE! A legitimate company wouldn’t do things like that.

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#24 Ex-Employee

Good ‘Ole SmartCircle

AUTHOR: OldYouth – Feelings (United States of America)

SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 28, 2012

I have been searching the internet and I have came across numerous reports about the way that this business operates. I used to be one of the top sales-reps in this company not too long ago. I witnessed a guy who was working there for only eight months that got promoted out to run his own office. I was drinking the D*MN KOOL-AID (JUICE).I even got the opportunity to attend one of the seasonal conferences that they have to motivate “Future Owners”. That is when my eyes were opened. Not only did I realize I worked my ass off to get the minimum pay but I would always answer to someone regardless of me opening my own office. I would never truly be in charge. I would just have people under me to determine my paychecks from what I hear wouldnt be much anyway.

I hope this is helpful to anyone that is attempting to become apart of this company. It is a cult in all of its practices. And the brainwashing begins from the second interview and everyday afterward. How could a company that speaks on promoting so many people, do 30+ interviews and hires a day? It wasnt making sense. But I will say I got the opportunity to work with a wonderful owner. Lonny was good to me and looked out for me whenever I needed anything extra. Even when my performance wasnt up to par, he was in my corner trying to get me better events and letting me lead teams on road trips.

I never got compensated well in pay, so I knew he was full of crap but at least my endurance wasnt bad on that end.
And as a owner, I know it was hard on you and all of the people you had to convince about working for something they would never actually grow in. This was the lowest paying job I have ever had and I have been working since the age of 15. I pray that the people that run this QUANTUM pyramid are exposed for what they truly are.

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#25 Ex-Employee

Hiring Now!

AUTHOR: Steve – Elkhart (United States of America)

SUBMITTED: Sunday, September 23, 2012

This company(s) is such a joke.  Having spent the worst 6 weeks of my life working below minimum wage, I decided to see if they would respond to a resume riddled with spelling errors and poor grammar.  YES, despite the spelling and grammar being so bad, they did call for a interview (and caller I.D. came in handy).  I answered in my “best” southern country bumkin voice with equally poor speech sentences that I didn’t understand.  But I was able to get a time for a interview.  What a JOKE.
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Direct sales, not for everyone

AUTHOR: fedient – Albuquerque (United States of America)

SUBMITTED: Saturday, September 29, 2012

Just like the title, they are not for everyone. When I applied with the manager who was promoted with Quantum, the Craigslist ad was not misleading at all. I knew that I was applying for a job in direct marketing, and big surprise, the job involved selling directly! I just finished my second week, and both have been $1400.00+ weeks. Although I do want to make more, that’s not shabby while I learn. Direct sales are a “sink or swim” industry and in the program that Mike has started, the swimmers have a very realistic opportunity to become wealthy.This world is full of burger flippers, burger buyers, and burger king owners. I’d rather be the latter two.

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23 thoughts on “JUICE By That Right.”

  1. Haha, nice. not one of the names and companies above are correct, clearly you aren’t even a thinker..
    Just like every company, some things are great, some are not. Don’t bash a worldwide marketing organization because you were not good enough to hang in there until the hard work pays off. I have been in the company for over 3 years, have had terrible days and weeks, and the best days and weeks in my life so far. Im not rich, and Im not poor, but Im still working at it because I have tasted the spoils.. and to the victor go the spoils… Ill hang in there for a bit longer and watch my life get better and better

    1. I did not bash this company I only posted what many people have already posted on Rip- Off Report I did not make this list nor did I write this article, I actually didn’t even give my personal account of what happened to me while working for them. However every company is different so you can’t say that they are all great since they are all run by different managers all I can say was my experience working with the grand rapids one was not great at all!. I don’t have time to give 3 years of my life to something completely fruitless but I wish you the best and good luck.

    2. And which one of those companies do you own? Sherri Contrary is a poorly made up name. I used to work at one of those places, and they fill your head with becoming an “owner” one day. I quit and not one of the leaders that worked with me are there presently. If it’s such a good job/opportunity, and takes so much to be a leader, then why aren’t any of the leaders from the beginning still there???

    3. I worked for JR Promtionz (listed above, Sherri) a couple years ago and it was a horrible experience. I quickly became one of the top sellers and was praised for my work, however I knew I had to get the hell out of there as soon as possible. I was continually lied to and knew the company was a scam. I quit and never looked back. As far as I know the company is no longer in business and I am working successfully in Chicago. Get out Sherri.

    4. If you go to Ripoff Report and search for DEVILCORP, you will find a plethora of links to news reports, government rulings, lawsuits and video footage showing how these people do business.

  2. I have aslo been ripped off by DFW PROMOTIONS LONNie LIAR promised me 350 a week but to only find a $ 15 dollar check for me on friday. He manipulates you and says ” your gonna have your own building in three months”. All bs … He even shows up late and he supposed to be running this circus of his. Not to mention he has you play dumb games like jump-the-river before you go out and sell his $30 can of waterless wax you can buy for 10 bucks at any store.

  3. It’s your own fault for making $15. You write your own paycheck. Clearly you’re not meant for the business. I have been with the company for over 2 years and have seen it work for people and not work for others. You get out what you put in.

  4. I was also suckered in by Community Events in Cromwell CT, now “Steele-Kurtin Enterprises”. These people will try to convince you that they donate money and toys to children, however, they actually just sell cheep crap from a fold out table on the side of streets and businesses! I remember when I fist started working there, it was right before Christmas and they were doing a toys for tots drive. We got so many people to donate toys that we were selling to the “box” that were supposedly going to the less fortunate. Surprise Surprise Christina Steele-Kurtin, the owner, didn’t deliver one toy. Imagine my surprise January 1st seeing a piles and piles of undelivered toys! I stood out in the cold for “children” and Christina Steele-Kurtin was planning on taking the toys and re selling them to make more money. They weren’t even nice toys they are all really really cheap toys made in Japan! Also, I never saw any proof what so ever that any money ever was donated! It’s one thing to say a job is hard to be successful at, but completely another to be used by a liar and con artists. These people should all be put out of business and sued by the charities they are ripping off!

  5. Smart Circle and all Smart Circle affiliates are scams! Fresh Enterprises is one of the scam offices in Denver and is the most un-professional, amateur, and scheme-oriented fronts for a company that I have ever seen. Turnover rate for all smart circle subsidiaries is 96%. If you want a job with no benefits, room for advancement, and like getting paid less than minimum wage then go right ahead !

  6. Alright:) Smartcircle is clearly misunderstood. Performance-based employment is apparently not meant for the masses…Is everyone afraid of their “lack of ability”

    1. NO! Not in the least! Would you like to compare W-2’s? Legitimate businesses don’t operate as the Smart Circle affiliates do. I made more money working 15 hours a week selling part time with an hourly wage, bonus AND Commission, plus paid training. BTW, having been an award winning Sales Trainer I can tell you that what is passed off as training is indoctrination. Telling is NOT training and neither is memorizing a script. Oh and while I’m on a full rant against morons like you, Did I mention I’ve been to Hawaii, Barbados, The Gainey Ranch in AZ, Cancun all on the company dime for superior performance? Where you been tough guy? Are you living the Smart Circle Dream> Still working the floor because you can’t take more then $300/week out your “business”. Have another sip of the JUICE, er Kool-Aid, If you weren’t so pathetic you’d be damned funny

    1. I’m sure this company is very proud to have someone so professional representing them. Once again this is just the original rip off report copy and pasted I have a link to the original above (please refer your comments there). Thank you!

    2. Let’s see the W-2 JUICE boy! Refute what I posted! You can’t! I’ve talked to Mikke Putz, ah Putnam and he NEVER EVER has a straight answer. Posy a link to a PDF of the W-2 or P & L for your enterprise? You do know what a P & L is don’t you?

      Name call all you like, business people deal in facts. So put up some facts there JUICE Boy. I wrote 2.2 million last year against a quota of 1.8 Million. What did you write selling crap pies at Sam’s Club?? Well??? Let’s hear ya.

      1. To Mr Bad Example, what do you sell and for what company?

        I do enjoy sales and working with people on a direct marketing level and did work for DS-MAX when Lonnie Kohlhorst was running a Long Island branch in the early 90’s years ago. It wasn’t easy work at all, but I did stick with it, honing my people skills, until I exceeded at my job and was taught some very useful additional my skills, most of which was how to remain tough and positive in the worst of situations. Held the top sales in the office for 3 consecutive weeks and was awarded by an all expense paid trip to Mexico with $300 spending money when I arrived, staying at a 5 star ocean front resort in Acapulco.That company is long gone, but had I been single then, I most likely would have moved with it.

        I am always looking for a good company to apply what I’ve learned there, which for the most part is creating goals and developing the tenacity to succeed at reaching them.

        You sound like you are having an amazing lifestyle, one that I wish for myself after having a little taste of what it’s like and thought there might be an opening where you work.


  7. Hey this is somewhat of off topic but I was wanting to know if blogs use WYSIWYG
    editors or if you have to manually code with HTML. I’m starting a blog soon but have no coding skills so I wanted to get guidance from someone with experience. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

  8. Cydcor, Innovage, smart Circle, Quantum Appco Group etc are just tentacles of the global direct sales cult known to some as Devilcorp. If you go to thedevilcorp.wordpress.com you will find a plethora of links to news reports, government rulings, lawsuits and video footage showing how these people do business. It’s a corporate horror story.

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